Legislature(1993 - 1994)

04/19/1994 08:35 AM House FIN

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  HOUSE BILL NO. 541                                                           
                                                                               
       "An Act providing  for an advisory  vote of the  people                 
       concerning  a  preferred  alternative   for  increasing                 
       revenue  available  to  support state  government;  and                 
       providing for an effective date."                                       
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson noted  that the legislation provides  for an                 
  advisory vote.  The ballot provision asks citizens of Alaska                 
  which alternative they prefer for raising revenues:                          
                                                                               
       *    A state income tax;                                                
                                                                               
       *    A state sales tax; or                                              
                                                                               
       *    Capping permanent fund earnings to be  distributed                 
            as earnings.                                                       
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson expressed concern that comparable need to be                 
  set to demonstrate how $450 to $500 million dollars could be                 
  raised.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Representative Hanley maintained that comparisons need to be                 
  drawn between the revenue each item would raise.                             
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre suggested  that the  response to  the                 
  ballot  question  would be  minimal.   He observed  that the                 
  public wishes to  see the budget cut.  He  stressed the need                 
  to inform the  public in regards to the  over-all, long-term                 
  state  economic  picture.   He  emphasized that  there  is a                 
  misconception  that the  budget can  be easily  cut with  no                 
  impact  or increased taxes.   He observed  that reduction in                 
  state support for municipalities has resulted in an increase                 
  in municipal taxes.                                                          
                                                                               
  Representative Therriault suggested that  a reduction of the                 
                                                                               
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  budget should be added to the ballot question.                               
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre  emphasized that the  perception that                 
  the budget can be cut without impacts is inaccurate.                         
                                                                               
  Representative   Grussendorf   expressed  support   for  the                 
  legislation.                                                                 
                                                                               
  Representative  Martin noted that  Alaska has  experienced a                 
  high voter turnout in past elections.   He stressed that the                 
  ballot  question   will  generate  discussion   and  provide                 
  guidelines.   He emphasized  that it will  allow citizens to                 
  have a voice in the legislature's action.                                    
                                                                               
  Representative  Grussendorf noted  that the  ballot question                 
  does not address the  use of the earnings income  account in                 
  the general fund.                                                            
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  MacLean stressed  that varying  levels of  capping                 
  permanent fund dividends  should be discussed in  the ballot                 
  question.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson  provided members with  quotations regarding                 
  permanent fund restrictions and the legislature's ability to                 
  spend from the Fund's  earnings reserve (copy on file).   He                 
  noted that:                                                                  
                                                                               
       *    "All  income  from  the  permanent fund  shall  be                 
            deposited  in the  general  fund unless  otherwise                 
            provided  by law." Article  IX, Section 15, Alaska                 
            Constitution                                                       
                                                                               
       *    "The income of  the fund  would be deposited  into                 
            the  general  fund  without   any  permanent  fund                 
            restrictions."  Jay S. Hammond, Governor,  January                 
            15, 1976                                                           
                                                                               
       *    "The purpose of the language  in the last sentence                 
            of the  resolution is to  give future legislatures                 
            maximum flexibility in  using the Fund's  earnings                 
            reserve..."  Hugh  Malone, Chairman  House Finance                 
            Committee on CSSSHJR 39                                            
                                                                               
       *    "When the oil and gas is depleted, where  will the                 
            funds to feed our giant  government come from? the                 
            answer  is:   The  Alaska  Permanent Fund."   1976                 
            Election Pamphlet in regards to proposition no. 2                  
                                                                               
       *    Each new legislature "is entitled  to make its own                 
            choices about the  use of Fund earnings."   Alaska                 
            Permanent Fund 1991 Annual Report                                  
                                                                               
                                                                               
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       *    "The purpose of the  Constitutional Budget Reserve                 
            Fund  is  to  cushion the  impact  of  reduced oil                 
            revenue  as  oil  production  declines  and  state                 
            revenues are depleted.   Currently, state  revenue                 
            is not depleted.  For  example, there is presently                 
            some $950,000,000  in the Permanent  Fund Earnings                 
            Account,  available  for   appropriation  by   the                 
            legislature."  Superior Court Judge John Resse                     
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Larson  noted that  $551  million dollars  will be                 
  distributed as dividends.   An income  tax would have to  be                 
  twice the amount  it was when  it was discontinued to  raise                 
  the  equivalent amount.  A state  sales tax would have to be                 
  set at approximately 20 percent to raise equal revenues.  He                 
  stressed the need to open options to the legislature.                        
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown   stressed  that  options   should  be                 
  parallel.  She noted that there are other options not on the                 
  list.   She suggested that voters choose  two of five or six                 
  options.  She suggested that an  option of other taxes could                 
  include  motor fuel,  alcohol,  cigarette, flat  employment,                 
  fish, and mining taxes.  She added that specific items could                 
  be  identified for  budget  cuts.   She  concluded that  the                 
  inclusion of more options would  allow a lower threshold per                 
  item.  She  suggested that increased  oil taxes and a  state                 
  wide property tax should also be included.  She suggested an                 
  interim  commission  be  created  to  address the  issue  of                 
  raising revenues.                                                            
                                                                               
  Co-Chair MacLean  stressed  that the  Alaska Permanent  Fund                 
  needs to be revisited.   She suggested that the  amount used                 
  as inflation proofing is too high.                                           
                                                                               
  Representative  Martin  expressed  support  for  HB  541  as                 
  drafted.  He felt that too  many options would be confusing.                 
  He did  not  want  an  interim  commission  to  replace  the                 
  legislation.                                                                 
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre observed that a state sales tax would                 
  be  difficult  to  administer.     He  emphasized  that  the                 
  legislature holds  the economic  future of  the  state.   He                 
  stressed that if  the economic structure, including  the tax                 
  structure,  is  not addressed  the state  will be  lead into                 
  economic collapse.                                                           
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Larson  noted that  the  public perception  is not                 
  favorable.    He questioned  if  there should  be additional                 
  options.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Representative Hanley  observed that the public would choose                 
  to cut the budget instead of raising taxes.  He stressed the                 
  need to educate  the public.   He emphasized  that the  more                 
                                                                               
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  options added the more difficult the process to educate.                     
                                                                               
  Representative Hanley  suggested that the  legislature state                 
  that:  "The total state general  fund spending budget for FY                 
  95  is approximately  $2.5 billion  dollars.  If  prices for                 
  Alaskan oil average $14 dollars a  barrel for that year, the                 
  total general fund recurring revenues  are anticipated to be                 
  $1.7 billion dollars.   That  leaves a gap  of $800  million                 
  dollars  that  we are  currently  using savings  accounts to                 
  fill."                                                                       
                                                                               
  Representative  Hanley suggested  that the  legislation also                 
  state:   Each of the following alternatives  would fill $250                 
  to $300 million  dollars of that gap.   Pick no more  than 2                 
  options.  He stated that he would add:  Cut the budget by 10                 
  percent.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Representative Hanley noted  that to raise the $250  to $300                 
  million dollars, a sales tax would have to be 10 percent and                 
  dividends would have to be capped at $500 dollars.                           
                                                                               
  Representative Grussendorf noted  a lack  of clarity on  the                 
  dividend question.    He emphasized that the state operating                 
  budget does not contain many mid  management level jobs.  He                 
  suggested that  the legislature consider  contracting for  a                 
  survey.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre stressed  that the option to  cut the                 
  budget by 10 percent is misleading.   He emphasized that the                 
  budget  is  over  inflated  by   the  inclusion  of  program                 
  receipts, federal matching funds, shared taxes and education                 
  funding.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Representative Brown noted that no one has advocated a state                 
  sales tax as a  viable alternative.  She suggested  that the                 
  state  sales  tax option  be  deleted.    She accented  that                 
  choices should be feasible to implement.                                     
                                                                               
  Representative Martin  argued that the  ballot question will                 
  educate voters and that all options should remain.                           
                                                                               
  (Tape Change, HFC 94-132, Side 2)                                            
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson expressed his intention to add other options                 
  to the legislation.                                                          
                                                                               
  HB 541 was HELD in Committee for further discussion.                         

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